This guy was banned from the narrative event at the nova open along with all of the other super heavies. So rather than let it go to waste, I decided to add detail and submit it to the Capitol Palette. It is probably a good thing I can't use it in the game, since it is one of my stronger pieces. I am very happy with the overall feel the model imparts. I've got some more painting to do next week before the event.
Fascists.
ReplyDeleteIt was the easier path than picking and choosing units I suppose. I was hoping to use this guy to super heavy hunt. Given that a player can bring 60 warp spiders I am not sure what good Banning anything does now.
DeleteMan you are up early!
DeleteIts funny I am finishing off these admech for nova but the client told me he can't run them in any of the events because the army includes a Knight Titan. I can see why it would be banned from the main GT, but seriously? from the narrative? seem like in the narrative anything should be allowed.
DeleteThe Narrative players were the biggest complaints last year in the post-event survey about super heavies and gargantuans. The typical quote went along the lines of "I thought this was a casual narrative event? Can we please keep the super heavies / gargantuans to the overly competitive GT where they belong?!"
DeleteAppropriately, you can guess the exact, similar phrasing the GT players used about them (hint: something something "apoc is for campaign and narrative play" something something).
It actually super bums me out when I see really gorgeous models that aren't legal. Took a step back from running the 40K events this year, though, and I think overall the rules and structure have been "right" on the whole.
I think it comes down to the structure of the survey. Nuance was not possible. Do I want to see eldar remnant Titans? Not if I can't list taylor at the event. If I can, then hell yes!
Deletei think the problem is that there are so many broken lists that games are over before they start. Side boards are almost a must at this point.
DeleteSide boards in 40k are a negatory kinda thing, b/c you have the same problems - certain players will min-max their main list and side boards, and the same players who refuse to min-max will not be able to handle them any which way they go.
DeleteBetter off going the Highlander and heavy comp routes and simply eliminating most of the extremes. That said, there's only so much you can polish a turd. Without rewriting the entire game on a unit-by-unit basis, you're going to end up with the same players crushing and the same players upset that it wasn't "right" or "characterful" or what-have-you. It's also important, at the same time, to note that no matter how "Broken" or "Bad" people call the game, the same players do well at every event, regardless of their list ... so from a "what's good" point of view, yeah, the game isn't balanced, but it's still in a point where it's not just won before the dice are rolled. Makes it tricky all around.
This should be solvable with the narrative. Open lists 3-4 months before gaming. Team captains set match ups based on strength of lists/players. Side boards exist to help things out. Cheese worthy lists are given handicaps or are disallowed. There just needs to be a way to adjust a list game time. If you really want to play a warlord Titan, then I'm totally game if I know in advance.
DeleteAgree that it can and should be solved.
DeleteI am surprised the narrative didn't ask for lists to be submitted. That was one thing the LVO friendly did to eliminate any "offshoots" of pain throwers. (even so, someone brought a big mek custom stompa in...)
DeleteYou know what, the Death Korps of Peoria don't do arms control. Maybe this will roll out of the painting comp and blast some elder at some point. :)
ReplyDeleteGo for it! It's not like those tools running the narrative would notice if you did....
DeleteThat is a shame Tim. I really wanted to see these in person. That was going to be one of my high points of the weekend. I love the color orange and it almost never gets used. I would rather have a list model where the narrative organizers get to sanity check lists 4 months before the event. We could even have players post their general lists so other players could react to them. It would be really fun to get the teams engaged ahead of the event. The invitationals have something like this apparently.
ReplyDeleteThat would be sweet
DeleteThat is a nice looking super heavy :)
ReplyDeleteBeautiful work! It's making me want to repaint my Krieg!!
ReplyDeleteVery very clean looking man.. your models always look amazingly crisp... I'm sad the Revenant won't be in attendance this year 8(
ReplyDeleteThat is absolutely flippin' gorgeous - beautiful work, man!
ReplyDeleteI am glad I still get to see this John. Your vehicles have always been a massively huge inspiration to me. I take excessive glee in seeing them in person!
ReplyDeleteMagnificent! Compliments, I like a lot your style!
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